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 Post subject: Re: Corbyn's Pilgrimage
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:30 am 
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The Romania referendum was ruled invalid due to the very low turnout. So a permanent ban on same sex marriage won't be written into their constitution.

Wolf, you seem to suggest that if it had been carried, the EU should have had the power to step in and overrule the result. That would be giving the EU powers to interfere in national referenda that they don't currently have.

The EU does have the power to bring sanctions against any member country that went so far-right that they turned their back on democracy though. If they became so fascist that they went against the democratic principles of the EU.

Any Romanian or anyone at all living in the UK must accept British law, whether they agree with it or not.
So that means same sex marriage can and will happen, whether people personally think it right or wrong. Soon civil partnerships for heterosexual couples will be happening too. Neither are compulsory for anyone who doesn't like it.


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Wolf, you seem to suggest that if it had been carried, the EU should have had the power to step in and overrule the result. That would be giving the EU powers to interfere in national referenda that they don't currently have. Light House[quote][/quote]
So to be clear the EU Bureaucrats in Brussels cannot interfere with a National Government as to what ever measures it takes? That's cleared that up, accept just may be the Italian Government are unaware of that ruling. Because as I read (might be wrong) at this time the Italian Government have or is about to pass a Budget which will go against EU ruling with regards Financial control. So what control does the EU Bureaucracy have over National Governments?

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EU Bureaucracy (I assume you mean the Commission) simply applies EU law.

Law that only exists in the first place because it has been voted for by the elected leaders of the member countries and the elected Parliament.

So an 'EU ruling' is based on past decisions that have been voted through. Some laws are purely under national control of course - the EU takes no part in those. Anything under EU control is something that the member countries have voted should be under EU control.

Same sex marriage is a national issue, left to individual countries. Only 20% of the Romanian electorate cared enough to vote.

The Italian budgetary issue seems to have arisen because the current government want to go against what the previous Italian government voted for.


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 Post subject: Re: Corbyn's Pilgrimage
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Lighthouse,

..Same sex marriage is a national issue, left to individual countries. Only 20% of the Romanian electorate cared enough to vote...

I thought we were considering the use of the word 'married' by homosexual couples.

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This thread seems to have wandered a long way into some strange Universe!

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It happens. Often a gentle reminder gets it back to the main subject matter - or it becomes exhausted and dies the death. However, if digressions are interesting and provide a lot of hits, we don't come down with a heavy hand, just the occasional gentle reminder.

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Stormy wrote:
It happens. Often a gentle reminder gets it back to the main subject matter - or it becomes exhausted and dies the death. However, if digressions are interesting and provide a lot of hits, we don't come down with a heavy hand, just the occasional gentle reminder.

Perhaps we should ask the questions, is Corbyn gay and thinking of moving to Romania?
Then the digressions become relevant.

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gazman wrote:
Stormy wrote:
It happens. Often a gentle reminder gets it back to the main subject matter - or it becomes exhausted and dies the death. However, if digressions are interesting and provide a lot of hits, we don't come down with a heavy hand, just the occasional gentle reminder.

Perhaps we should ask the questions, is Corbyn gay and thinking of moving to Romania?
Then the digressions become relevant.

I'll ask him for you if you like, or would you like to do your own mud mudslinging?

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Purwell wrote:
gazman wrote:
Stormy wrote:
It happens. Often a gentle reminder gets it back to the main subject matter - or it becomes exhausted and dies the death. However, if digressions are interesting and provide a lot of hits, we don't come down with a heavy hand, just the occasional gentle reminder.

Perhaps we should ask the questions, is Corbyn gay and thinking of moving to Romania?
Then the digressions become relevant.

I'll ask him for you if you like, or would you like to do your own mud mudslinging?

Ask away.
I was being a little flippant perhaps but mudslinging?
No, not unless you think being gay is something to be ashamed of.

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