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spewing CO2
What do lumberjacks do?

What do Canadians have piled up next to their homes?

When burned, the smoke contains water vapor, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxide, irritant volatile organic compounds, air toxics and very small particles.

How do you make Canada's favorite: maple syrup? Hint: Maple sap and hours of boiling, outside with lots of firewood.

And then there's this...
...Air pollution in Canada is contributed by industrial and vehicular emissions, agriculture, construction, wood burning and energy production.[1] A recent report found that Canadian companies contributed 73% more to air pollution than companies in the United States.[2] Within the 73% more emissions it was found that Canadian companies contributed 29% more respiratory toxins into the air than the U.S."[2] While Canadian businesses may release more emissions than those in the U.S, overall emissions have decreased in the past few years. This can be evidenced with Environment Canada's 2010 document named Air Pollutant Emission Summaries and Historical Emission Trends.[3] This report found that 2010 emissions, when compared to 2009 emissions, saw an overall decrease.[3] Additionally, it was found that heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (smog precursors) were at lower levels in 2010 than in 1990...
More about Canadian pollution here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_Canada

There's much work to be done, Canada. Clean your environment, we'll clean ours--and everybody else is expected to do the same--with their own money, not ours for a change.

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Yes. We signed on to the Paris Agreement to do our share of reducing emissions.

We subsequently ratified that agreement.

So the first thing we did in Ontario, was to close EVERY coal fired power plant.
While Canadian businesses may release more emissions than those in the U.S, overall emissions have decreased in the past few years. This can be evidenced with Environment Canada's 2010 document named Air Pollutant Emission Summaries and Historical Emission Trends.[3] This report found that 2010 emissions, when compared to 2009 emissions, saw an overall decrease.[3] Additionally, it was found that heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (smog precursors) were at lower levels in 2010 than in 1990...
You haven't. In fact, you're talking about bringing back coal.

So until you do something about reducing your CO2 emissions, we'll keep sniping at you about that.

And I hope the extreme weather bites until it hurts, and you do do something about it.

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Don't use wood either. :P
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If you want to get personal, I can point to mood swings, irritability, depression, etc as some of the side effects of immunosuppressive drugs.

http://www.med.umich.edu/trans/public/p ... ations.pdf

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Begin a new thread.

Back to what will be again: Beautiful Puerto Rico! :smiles:

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I guess you don't want to get personal after all.

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Why Anyone Would Want to Control You
https://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/ ... ntrol-you/

Back to news from Puerto Rico:

https://twitter.com/ricardorossello

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Twain
Canadian visits
In 1881, Twain was honored at a banquet in Montreal, Canada where he made reference to securing a copyright.[62] In 1883, he paid a brief visit to Ottawa,[63] and he visited Toronto twice in 1884 and 1885 on a reading tour with George Washington Cable, known as the "Twins of Genius" tour.[64][63][65]
The reason for the Toronto visits was to secure Canadian and British copyrights for his upcoming book Adventures of Huckleberry Finn,[65][63] to which he had alluded in his Montreal visit. The reason for the Ottawa visit had been to secure Canadian and British copyrights for Life on the Mississippi.[63] Publishers in Toronto had printed unauthorized editions of his books at the time, before an international copyright agreement was established in 1891.[63] These were sold in the United States as well as in Canada, depriving him of royalties. He estimated that Belford Brothers' edition of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer alone had cost him ten thousand dollars.[63] He had unsuccessfully attempted to secure the rights for The Prince and the Pauper in 1881, in conjunction with his Montreal trip.[63] Eventually, he received legal advice to register a copyright in Canada (for both Canada and Britain) prior to publishing in the United States, which would restrain the Canadian publishers from printing a version when the American edition was published.[65][63] There was a requirement that a copyright be registered to a Canadian resident; he addressed this by his short visits to the country.[65][63]
Canadians have difficulty respecting what isn't theirs.

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Rose wrote: Canadian visits . . . Twain . . . Canadians have difficulty respecting what isn't theirs.
Does that mean we are again allowed to mention Mark Twain, or are the Thought Police still watching? Just asking . . . :thinking2:
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics ... 4324362697

Hard hitting photo essay

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You don't want to be a colony of the United States.

Because if you are, you get taxation, without representation.

You know how that ends up.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/f ... co-w505587

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I wonder how the Isle of Man would cope if it had got levelled .....and the UK mainlands quality of response..?
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I don't know.

I know that Puerto Rico is getting screwed.

Taxation without representation.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/ ... aid-315974

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Trump falsely claims nearly 3,000 Americans in Puerto Rico 'did not die' - CNNPolitics

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000,..............This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!"
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That's right, Tanky, blame death due to old age on him.

Have the "liberals" no shame? No, of course not!

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Norm wrote:You don't want to be a colony of the United States.

Because if you are, you get taxation, without representation.

You know how that ends up.

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/f ... co-w505587
The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and Puerto Ricans are US citizens. However, Puerto Rico is not a US state. Because of this, only Puerto Rican residents who are government employees, and those with income sources outside of the territory, pay federal income tax. All other employers and employees pay no federal income taxes. However, residents of Puerto Rico and businesses operating in Puerto Rico do pay some federal taxes, and the commonwealth's government has its own taxes as well...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Puerto_Rico

If they don't like the arrangement, the citizens of Puerto Rico can vote to change the rules. Their future is up to them.

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000,..............This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!"
Rose wrote:That's right, Tanky, blame death due to old age on him.

Have the "liberals" no shame? No, of course not!
You truly are a trump supporter
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Tankus wrote:You truly are a trump supporter

Truth supporter.


Puerto Rico had a higher death rate in 2016 than it did with the hurricanes in 2017.

https://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=rq&v=26
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I support logic, Tankus. Do you want life to get better? Get off your derriere, work and make it happen...

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Top Florida Republicans distance themselves from Trump's false claims on Puerto Rican death toll

Jeff Lippman
Trumps incompetence has cost around as many American lives as the 9/11 terrorists took, think about that for a moment.
The fact is only a tiny number of people died in the hurricane itself, and had the relief efforts been immediate and significant, the loss of life would have been little more than a few tens of people, but because of trumps failure to act, at least 2900 people who did not need to die, American citizens all, are now dead.
This cannot be seen as acceptable on any level.



This should not surprise us, but it should serve as a reminder that there is not a bottom here. There is no depth that Trump will not explore in order to further his own narcissism and victimhood. There is no conspiracy he will not embrace -- or, in this case, start -- in order to improve his own personal brand or further his own political narrative.

In late August, the Puerto Rican government acknowledged that the death toll from Hurricane Maria was 46 times higher than they had previously publicly acknowledged. It was not 64 people who lost their lives in the monster storm but somewhere closer to 3,000. The new estimate comes from a study conducted by the Milken Institute of Public Health at George Washington University, and commissioned by Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rosselló.

https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/defa ... 20Rico.pdf



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They're still estimating the exact number of hurricane related deaths.
..."Indirect deaths resulting from worsening of chronic conditions or from delayed medical treatments may not be captured on death certificates," Harvard University researchers said in a recent study, which contended that the official government death toll of 64 is a “substantial underestimate.”...
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/puert ... XZW0TtiIK/

One death is a tragedy, but to blame the President for everything that went wrong in Puerto Rico is inaccurate. We'll discuss the subject later. Right now, we're concentrating on Hurricane Florence...

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Strange how fanaticism, of any kind, simply denies ALL evidence.

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FEMA did its job. The ball was dropped by the commonwealth, and at the local level in Puerto Rico.

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