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FBI 's interest in Carter Page predates the dossier .....

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Nunes memo confirmed in February, that the FBI began investigating Trump associates’ ties to Russia for a reason having nothing to do with the dossier.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... fbi-russia

Parts of the dossier have been verified
Others havent

Putins confirmed that Trump was the Kremlin's choice for prez
Not one of the various US intelligence agencies disagree over Russian interference with the US presidential elections happened...with several Russians and companies indicted.

You would have thought that genuinely patriotic americans would be wholly supportive of the FBI in getting to the bottom of it....and preventing a further reoccurance ?

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UPDATE: Still no "Russian collusion with Trump Campaign"

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Donald Trump crosses into strange new territory, suggesting his own words may have been faked
By Jackson Proskow Washington Bureau Chief Global News


Thursday marked an alarming shift in President Donald Trump’s already disturbing attacks on the media.

Buried in a tweetstorm about the “fake news” and the press being the “enemy of the people” was a striking claim about Trump’s May 2017 interview with NBC News.

“When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!” Trump tweeted.

What’s going on at @CNN is happening, to different degrees, at other networks – with @NBCNews being the worst. The good news is that Andy Lack(y) is about to be fired(?) for incompetence, and much worse. When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2018


Fudging tape” is an entirely new claim that has not been supported by any evidence

It was, of course, during that interview that Trump spoke about his decision to fire FBI Director James Comey.
Trump told Lester Holt, “In fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, ‘You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.’”



Those comments instantly became fodder for Special Counsel Robert Mueller, as he looks at whether the president knowingly sought to interfere or obstruct the Russia probe, by firing someone who could potentially implicate him or his top advisors.

But what’s so alarming is that Trump is now telling his followers not to believe anything they hear that might be negative — even when those words are the president’s own.
It seems odd that Trump waited 15 months to suddenly claim that the words we all heard him speak were somehow false or altered — which raises one obvious question: why now?


It has already been a week full of other questionable claims from the Commander-in-Chief.

Trump tweeted that Google was suppressing positive coverage of his administration, without offering proof.
Later, he tweeted a video that falsely claimed Google failed to promote Trump’s State of the Union address on its homepage, while promoting Barack Obama’s.
On Tuesday, Trump tweeted that “China hacked Hillary Clinton’s private Email Server,” forcing the FBI to issue a rebuke of the president, saying that his claim simply wasn’t backed by any evidence.

The president even seemed to admit that he had at one point tried to fire both Attorney General Jeff Sessions and Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

I am very excited about the person who will be taking the place of Don McGahn as White House Counsel! I liked Don, but he was NOT responsible for me not firing Bob Mueller or Jeff Sessions. So much Fake Reporting and Fake News!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2018

All of this suggests the White House is adopting a siege mentality, with the president lashing out more frequently.
Increasingly, Trump is acting like a man who’s cornered.

But if he’s looking to explain-away his problems, he may have a hard time hiding from his own words.


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I don't think anyone reads Canadian copy and paste socialists nonsense any more.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:28 am 
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"truth isnt truth" .....
It now seems that crimes are not crimes

that Holt tape is in Muellers evidence file with trump admitting obstruction of justice ...
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UPDATE: Still no "Russian collusion with Trump Campaign"
Muellers not finished yet
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Back to “Russian collusion” allegations:
Warning: If disinterested, or suffering from TDS or TAD, don't look.
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Donald J. Trump‏ Verified account @realDonaldTrump 4 hours ago
Fake News reporting, a complete fabrication, that I am concerned about the meeting my wonderful son, Donald, had in Trump Tower. This was a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics - and it went nowhere. I did not know about it!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

as your so fond of dictionary's
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collusion: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose..
..acting in collusion with the enemy

The crime is , conspiracy to defraud the USA ...Mueller's already used this ,charged and guilty with Gates (trumps deputy campaign manager ,and deputy chairman of trumps inaugural committee)
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If you and an accomplice plan a bank robbery, or a hacking attempt, or a home break-in, and take at least one concrete step toward enacting your plan, you can be charged with conspiracy.

Trump and his "lawyer" Giuliani are now saying collusion isnt a crime and are no loner denying it took place ....
if it isnt a problem ...

why all the lies ?........ including under oath by Don Jr , with Snrs dictated note ?

Thats going to be legally tested ...for sure ...
heh along with
Lawsuit alleging Charity fraud
Lawsuit alleging violations of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

Emoluments abuse
Implicated in his personal attorneys guilty plea of joint campaign finance illegality , and not just the porno payoff slush fund .

And considering his personal attorney , campaign manager , and deputy campaign manager ...have all been found guilty of Tax fraud ..its not much of a stretch , that this is now being looked at with trumps finances , particularly as his life long personal accountant has now been given immunity.....

Pay for play seems a likely proposition .

And then there is the biggest legal threat of all , according to his own legal advisors , obstruction of justice

Its like a race ...as to what nails him first

busy busy

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kas couldn't possibly believe the rubbish he scavenges for posts. :screwy:

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...Holt tape is in Muellers evidence file with trump admitting obstruction of justice ...
Comey served at the "pleasure of the President" and Comey--himself--said the President had a right as President to fire Comey--for any reason or reasons.

http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... any-reason

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Rod Rosenstein's letter recommending Comey be fired

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39866767

P.S. There's still no "Russian collusion with Trump Campaign"...

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why all the lies ?........ including under oath by Don Jr , with Snrs dictated note ?

Clintons'/Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, lied ("was mistaken")...


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Heh.. lol... peas in a pod

How many lawyer's surrounding trump are going to lose their licence to practice ?

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Another day , another guilty plea for the Russian and criminal investigation teams ..
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American political consultant admits foreign money was funneled to Trump inaugural
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Samuel Patten, a former associate of President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, has pleaded guilty to one count of failure to register as a foreign agent.
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A former associate of Paul Manafort pleaded guilty to a lobbying crime and agreed to cooperate with the U.S., giving prosecutors access to insights from a longtime international political operative whose Russian business partner has already been indicted in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s prob
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-31/manafort-associate-sam-patten-is-charged-with-fara-violation

This is one of the charges facing Manafort in a few weeks ....... awkward for some

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...Nothing to do with Donald Trump. How are the Podesta brothers doing?

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wrong

this ...and more...
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As part of his plea deal, Patten agreed to assist prosecutors, including special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is investigating whether Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 campaign.
Mueller has been probing whether foreign money flowed into the coffers of Trump’s inaugural committee, which raised more than $100 million, and Patten’s plea offers the first clear evidence that it occurred.
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Opens the door to an audit of that slushy inaugural fund , another one added to trumps legal in tray

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Allegedly, Sam Patten independently broke the law of his volition, Tankus.

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Manafort Ally to Cooperate With U.S. After Guilty Plea

...Patten’s plea agreement also included the suggestion that the Trump Inaugural Committee improperly accepted funds from a foreigner. Patten admitted that he illegally helped a Ukrainian oligarch buy a ticket to Trump’s swearing-in through a straw-man donor, though as part of his cooperation agreement he wasn’t charged...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -violation

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Manaforts back up before the beak in a week or three....I wonder if hes going to cut a deal ?

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...To "sing" or "compose"?

What we know about Paul Manafort as...


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In February 2016, Manafort approached Donald Trump through a mutual friend, Thomas J. Barrack Jr. He pointed out his experience advising presidential campaigns in the United States and around the world, described himself as an outsider not connected to the Washington establishment, and offered to work without salary.[35] In March 2016, he joined Trump's presidential campaign to take the lead in getting commitments from convention delegates.[36] On June 20, 2016, Trump fired campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and promoted Manafort to the position. Manafort gained control of the daily operations of the campaign as well as an expanded $20 million budget, hiring decisions, advertising, and media strategy.[37][38][39] Like most hires in the Trump campaign, Manafort was not vetted.[28]

On June 9, 2016, Manafort, Donald Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner were participants in a meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya and several others at Trump Tower. A British music agent, saying he was acting on behalf of Emin Agalarov and the Russian government, had told Trump Jr. that he could obtain damaging information on Hillary Clinton if he met with a lawyer connected to the Kremlin.[40] At first, Trump Jr. said the meeting had been primarily about the Russian ban on international adoptions (in response to the Magnitsky Act) and mentioned nothing about Mrs. Clinton; he later said the offer of information about Clinton had been a pretext to conceal Veselnitskaya's real agenda.[41]

In August 2016, Manafort's connections to former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and his pro-Russian Party of Regions drew national attention in the US, where it was reported that Manafort may have received $12.7 million in off-the-books funds from the Party of Regions.[42]

On August 17, 2016, Donald Trump received his first security briefing.[43] The same day, August 17, Trump shook up his campaign organization in a way that appeared to minimize Manafort's role. It was reported that members of Trump's family, particularly Jared Kushner who had originally been a strong backer of Manafort, had become uneasy about his Russian connections and suspected that he had not been forthright about them.[44] Manafort stated in an internal staff memorandum that he would "remain the campaign chairman and chief strategist, providing the big-picture, long-range campaign vision".[45] However, two days later, Trump announced his acceptance of Manafort's resignation from the campaign after Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway took on senior leadership roles within that campaign.[46][47]

Upon Manafort's resignation as campaign chairman, Newt Gingrich stated, "nobody should underestimate how much Paul Manafort did to really help get this campaign to where it is right now."[48] Gingrich later added that, for the Trump administration, "It makes perfect sense for them to distance themselves from somebody who apparently didn't tell them what he was doing."[49]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Manafort

About Natalia Veselnitskaya...

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On June 9, 2016, Veselnitskaya met with Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, and Jared Kushner in Trump Tower, which they scheduled after Emin Agalarov's publicist, Rob Goldstone, told Donald Jr. that she was a "Russian government attorney" offering incriminating information on Hillary Clinton due to "its government’s support for Mr. Trump". Regarding the meeting, Trump Jr. initially wrote, "I love it" but, in July 2017, said the meeting "was a waste of time".[16][17] Donald Trump Jr. said that Veselnitskaya used the meeting to criticize the Magnitsky Act.[18]

Akhmetshin said he met with Veselnitskaya for lunch and she asked him to attend the meeting, which he then did.[19] According to Akhmetshin, Veselnitskaya's translator, Anatoli Samachornov, also attended.[14] He said Veselnitskaya left a document with Trump Jr.[19]

Also on or around June 9, prior to and following the Trump Tower meeting, Veselnitskaya met with Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson, ostensibly related to hearings that involved their mutual client Denis Katsyv, concerning charges of Russian tax fraud and money laundering originally uncovered by Magnitsky. The Simpson–Veselnitskaya meetings were denied by Veselnitskaya herself but confirmed by Simpson's lawyer. This has led to speculation from Trump allies linking the meetings to Fusion GPS's concurrent work assembling opposition research against then-candidate Trump.[7][20]

Two days after the Trump Tower meeting, the foundation registered to lobby Congress on the Magnitsky Act.[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalia_Veselnitskaya

Fusion GPS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS

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Convicted felon and ex trumps election campaign manager /coffee boy , barely knew him for almost 4 decades,...... Manaforts, back on manoeuvres with Mueller again, after his first round of brokering fell through before being found guilty !!!!

.....With his second trial coming up , and potentially a third on the 10 miss trials and witness tampering..!...no pressure then ..

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What are you waiting for, Tankus?

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More popcorn ?

Seems like Manafort has struck a guilty plea offer with Mueller to avoid court including the witness tampering !! .....potentially there's a third court case of the 10 counts of miss trial from the first ...I wonder if that will be thrown in as a BOGOF deal ?

heh...apparently ... Giuliani has admitted that errrr .... the President of the United states has a joint defence agreement with a convicted liar ,Russian money launderer and fraudster ...

there's a presidential first ...perhaps

update ...its not just a guilty plea ......
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plea agreement requires Manafort to cooperate "in any and all matter as to which the government deems the cooperation relevant" including full, complete testimony to the grand jury in DC

more fun to come ..eh? ....end of trumps and manaforts collusion on defence .... pardons out the window ?
Confiscation of several Manafort properties including the one at trump tower and several bank accounts
trump ...making Nixon look like an innocent choir boy

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I guess he didn't have anything to trade.
Seems he does

getting interesting ...for sure

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Once again...quit your whining, you pus coloured, fire-hazard-haired little bitch.

"Collussion?" Would somoeone PUH-LEESE hire a 3rd grade teacher for this idiot!!?
Exactly who are the "13 angry Democrats" he keeps obsessively referring to?
Oh, and he's already spent more than $77 million tax dollars on his frequent golfing jaunts.

At what point did the republicans stop investigating Benghazi? We didn’t hear you complaining about that or all the money they've wasted on Hillary’s emails.
The Repukes spent over $100 million investigating the Clintons over 30 years ago and found absolutely nothing. I must have missed it when they said "Sorry we wasted all your tax money."


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News Flash: Still NO Russian Collusion with [the] Trump Campaign! :happy:

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Lol....Muellers invesigation is now running a profit

Manaforts guilty plea is "conspiracy against the united states "

Muellers now got a cooperative witness to the trump tower meeting ....where trumps current lawyer and trump have already confirmed that there was conspiracy with the russians to get dirt on clinton to manipulate the presidential election ....".but collusion is not a crime .." lol

The crime actually is conspiracy to defraud the united states .... to which trumps deputy finance campaign manager , and now his ex head campaign manager have now both pleded guilty to ...

Don Jnr ...and Kushner soon in Mueller sights....with a Stone overturned along the way

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Where do you get this stuff?

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Its out there....just look past fox ....

Rose wrote:
So far, this useless fiasco has cost American taxpayers about $20,000,000. In my opinion, Mueller and his cohorts aren't going to give up such lucrative incomes, so they'll waste all the time they can finding busy work...

More Mueller .... ...hes now helping the government in reducing the deficit ...by charging and sequestering criminal tax fraudsters

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The lawyer today, washing his hands: "This is conduct that dates back years and everybody should remember that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxQvKcPAKU

It had nothing to do with Donald Trump. Who's in trouble? John Podesta, et al.

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Spin eh?
Manafort was selling access to trump to the russians which was why he was fired

If it was nothing to do with trump ...then why the joint defense agreement between trumps lawyers and a convicted fraudster .?...eh ?
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“There’s no fear that Paul Manafort would cooperate against the president because there’s nothing to cooperate about and we long ago evaluated him as an honorable man.”


You would have thought that all the presidents men would(nt) let trump within a mile of a convicted felon ...let alone actually have a joint legal agreement...?

Manaforts not done yet

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